Drug Policy

When it comes to drug policy, it seems like everyone has an opinion. I'd like to submit the following Royal Gazette article for discussion. What policies do you think Government should be pursuing when it comes to drugs?

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Government MP Ashfield DeVent has claimed guns are routinely imported with drugs as he urged society to get a grip on the problem amid escalating violence.

He told the House on Friday: "Generally I have been told that a shipment of drugs doesn't enter this country if not accompanied by a shipment of guns, they are hand in hand.

"When money is sent it comes with guns whether they want it or not."

And he said in his own seat of Pembroke South East gun shots were heard "somewhat often" but they weren't even reported.

Mr. DeVent blasted the United Bermuda Party for being stuck on the issue of mandatory random drug testing for MPs.

Mr. DeVent admitted he had smoked marijuana in the past but said he was now able to take a test at anytime.

But he said politicians were missing the point if they thought that young people would take notice of the example they set.

He said: "If they think it would stop young people doing it they are so off track. They don't give two hoots about what we say or do they don't even recognise us."

Mr. DeVent lamented Bermuda had seen its first teenager charged with murder recently and now there were seven people on murder charges.

Earlier United Bermuda Party MP John Barritt had kicked off the motion to adjourn general debate by urging Government to "put up or shut up" and consent to random drug testing of MPs after Public Safety Minister David Burch had publicly lamented that so many Bermudians were failing drug tests on recruitment drives for the fire and prison services.

"I call it hypocrisy," said Mr. Barritt. "You cannot expect others to do what you do not do yourself."

That brought a stinging response from the Government benches. Health Minister Nelson Bascome said he had spent years working in drug counselling and said the Opposition needed to get in the trenches and help.

And backbencher Walter Roban said Government had a host of programmes to reverse the problems of drug abuse including Mirrors and Hope for Life.

He said the Opposition MPs didn't represent areas with drug problems a claim which was ridiculed by UBP MP Mark Pettingill who said drugs were everywhere.

Mr. Pettingill lamented the fact that MPs from both sides spoke to each other calmly and cordially in the back rooms of Parliament but tore into each other on the floor of the House, even on issues which they should be able to unite on.

Former Policeman Wayne Perinchief said there was such a demand for drugs that even if importation was curbed people would grow or produce them in this country.

He said the public was enabling the problem by turning a blind eye to relatives who had addictions.

"When little Johnny doesn't want to wake up and go to school because he's tired, he's tired from what? Smoking pot.

"When your daughter is stealing money from her employer and you don't see her wearing expensive clothes she's got a boyfriend with a habit she has to support."

He lamented Government had cut back on funding for drugs awareness.

Social Rehabilitation Minister Dale Butler said Government was producing slightly fewer drug leaflets.

He said Government was close to finding another location for drug retreat Camp Spirit after a site had proved too expensive at $6 million after being originally quoted at $2 million.

And he said Government had opened a drug treatment facility and a transitional living facility recently.

Mr. Butler said people had laughed when 30 years ago a perceptive Sunday school teacher had said marijuana would destroy Bermuda but now the view was commonly held.

And he said he had been so worried about the effects of crystal meth he had set up training programmes so Bermuda was prepared should it spread here.

Shadow Works & Engineering Minister Patricia Gordon-Pamplin discussed the need to stamp out drugs in the community despite her estranged husband's ongoing alleged drug trafficking case.

"I know there may be other people who have called for my resignation given the fact that others close to me have made decisions that I would not have many under any circumstances.

"I don't cover for my children, I don't cover for my siblings, I don't cover for my parents and I certainly wouldn't cover for a spouse if there was something illegal going on."

Energy Minister Terry Lister spoke about the focus on education but said the focus need to also be on parenting.

"I'm not going to try and sell a picture of everything's good. There are some bad children but there are more bad parents. Poor parenting skills is a major issue in this country".

Mr. Lister also said if the Government could figure out a way to help improve parenting skills, Minister of Culture and Social Rehabilitation, Dale Butler, would be able to slash his budget as many of the programmes wouldn't be necessary.

Speaking on the drug debate, Mr. Lister said: "We talk about drugs but we don't talk about alcohol, a legal drug.

"We just act like it's OK to have a fellow eat up half his paycheck with alcohol."

Randy Horton spoke briefly about the drugs debate saying: "We need to decrease the demand for drugs in our community. People have to understand what it is doing to them. We need to ask parents to step up".

The minister also said parents need to take responsibility in making sure their children have legal jobs if they are living a lavish lifestyle and buying gifts for them.

"We need to ensure that we work towards decreasing the level of demand. This is a problem that every person in this country will want to see resolved", he added.

Opposition Leader Kim Swan said: "The difficulties we have in this country is young people have a criminal element. They are bold and aggressive who are role models to our young people, the wrong type of role models".

"We have national sports and (there are) young talented people who can't represent our country because they won't be able to take a drug test."

Michael Scott, speaking after Mr. Swan, said he thought the Government should intervene to stamp out drugs in the community but added ministers shouldn't be required to take drug tests.

Deputy Premier Paula Cox told an analogy about a pig and a chicken who lived in a barnyard. The pig asked the chicken what he wanted for breakfast and the chicken said bacon and eggs.

The pig then said: "For you, that's involvement. For me, that's total commitment".

Ms Cox added: "The level of total commitment in this honourable house in addressing substance abuse in the community".

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Do you actually have any ideas?

Or are you just the type who cuts and pastes and then critices others opinions while at the same time not putting forward any of your own? Yeah, I can see how you are "breaking down barriers" to help come together and solve BDA's problems. A true debater you are.

You know what maybe you should stick to writing about people's watches and your so called "humor"posts.

Way to make personal attacks

Way to make personal attacks instead of responding to the substance of my argumentation. Seriously though, how has the UBP drug testing regimen and the UBP role models affected drug use in Bermuda? Oh, right, it hasn't. And, you can't argue the opposite point, so, instead, you attack me. Mature.

Look and respond....

You are the last person to criticise others about substances about their arguments.

Look at my post below on drugs and respond.

Look at my independence post and respond.

Look at all the areas of discussion points that I posted last week and respond.

Look at Mr. Starling's posts last week and respond.

Look ay Mr. Brown's post on education and respond.

I've made lots of posts and

I've made lots of posts and made scores of serious arguments. I don't have time to respond to each and every post, sorry.

Apologies

But somehow you find the time to post petty articles about Wayne Furbert and Raymond Davis and "clueless Charlie the Plumber" and how sad and pathetic Grand Gibbon's is and Bob the Hypocrite.

I understand why you didn't have the time to post any meaningful arguments. My apologies.

How May Are There?

Should all those wealthy UBP MPs lease or sell one the many homes they own for a reasonable price? Will this solve the housing crisis?

Can you please list all of those wealthy UBP MPs with many homes?

Is the marketplace not an efficient enough gauge of reasonability when it some to selling or renting a piece of property?

Are there no wealthy PLP MPs with multiple properties for sale or rent?

What has all of this got to do with the price of tea in China again? Exactly, nothing.

If we're going to have a discussion about the serious drug problem in Bermuda a key part of that is the political machine that enacts legislation and policy initiatives to tackle said problem. If the team responsible for implementing these concepts are themselves actively avoiding testing why should anyone rally behind this cause?

I don't know if they own

I don't know if they own more than one home, but, you've got to be kidding yourself if you think the sons of Bermuda's aristocratic elites with names like Gibbons, Barritt and Dunkley aren't wealthy.

Find the source(s)....

The only obvious way of having any sort of positive effect on the widespread drug abuse throught BDA is cutting off the source. You can walk down Front Street on almost night of the week and find a range of drugs available for sale. That's only one small area in BDA!!

It has always astounded me the amount of drugs which are able to enter this island. It almost seems like there is an endless supply and of course there is always the demand to satisfy.

Obviously these are long time connections, because they aren't the hustler on the wall, that have the resources to bring in these large quantities. It is the old timers that have established long term relationships with the higher ups over time.

How hard it can be in a 20 plus square mile island to identify the major purveyors of this trade after so many years? Obviously there is an incentive not to bother these individuals somewhere down the line. And no I am not talking about PLP politicians, there are people bigger than them believe it or not.

I think once the supply has been curbed then is when the real "treatment" can take place. Becuse these days an addict can walk outof rehab and run into one his/her mates and pick up the habit within minutes.

Why don't you ask Michael

Why don't you ask Michael Dunkley to submit to voluntary inspections of his milk containers?

Bye Bye

I guess that's what you consider an "intelligent and constructive response" huh? I pray that you aren't one of those future PLP leaders that Mr. Burt was talking about the other day in teh Sun. And I am done. When you obtain the ability to debate in a mature fashion look me up. I won't hold my breath going off of your previous posts. Peace to you mate and good luck with the intolerance thing you got going on.

No, that's what I consider a

No, that's what I consider a witty joke rooted in fact:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PhZiyWPrmM

"intolerance thing you got going on."

Funny that you claim that you don't spew personal insults. I can't think of a lower blow than that.

I can

How about calling someone a racist based on different opinions on a matter. I would say that is pretty low and a personal attack at its worst.

It's not required, it's just leadership

Anyone who has been through an HBS class on effective change will tell you that the first thing a CEO does when he wants his company to move in a direction, is to implement that shift him/herself.

Having all MPs do voluntary drug tests won't stop drugs coming onto the island, fighting over them and lives ruined because of them. But it will send a statement of intent, and it will also make it more palatable when they stand up and preach against drugs.

Because lets face it, if we were all waiting around at a conference against speeding in Bermuda, and an MP rocked up doing 60, we probably wouldn't take them all that seriously.

More to the point, unless the MPs are active drug users, why is this a problem? Civil servants have to get tested, most employers have the right to test their employees at any time, hell I got tested when I joined my job. Why should MPs be exempt?

Ideas for combating drugs:

1. Harsher punishments - All too often I hear people, particularly parents, moaning about the stop list and mandatory prison sentences and so forth for drug use. It's not the only answer, but I say longer, mandatory sentences for possession are not going to hurt the problem at all.

2. More agressive police, tackling the 'middle' instead of waiting for the 'top' - The oft-cited excuse for why the police don't go after known dealers is that they're going to 'cut head off the snake' and the supply chain will die. Problem is, they never seem to get the head, and they're ignoring the body the whole time. I'm not saying its as effective to take out 'middle management' in the drug trade as it is to take out the 'CEO', but doing nothing because you can't get the CEO is clearly a pretty poor option too.

3. Community programmes - The more involved we can get our youth in sport, communities and other such worthwhile distractions, the more likely we are to keep them out of drugs. Find out what kids like to do and offer it at a community level. We have an absolutely massssive budget, so lets spend on some worthwhile stuff. I remember coming across a really entrepreneurial guy (name eludes me sorry!) who was setting up a recording studio that he was using to show kids how that process works. A great way to reach out afterschool.

4. Reprioritise customs - I swear if our customs official spent a tenth of the energy they do searching me each time I come home on searching various importation routes, there'd be no drugs coming onto the island.

5. Offer anonymous 'turn ins' - Not sure if this already exists, or if no one would use it for fear of retribution, but give people a number they can call to completely anonymously report drugs being sold/used in their area. If it already exists, publicise it more.

6. Get more ex-drug users that are now role models into schools, teaching their lessons - Again, names are failing me this morning, but we had a really effective guy come in and speak about 10/15 years ago. How growing up he'd got into the dealing, got caught, done time, how bad it was, and how now he regretted it and wants to spread his message.

7. Somehow promote more positive role models - I have no idea how to do this practically, but lets face it, a lot of popular figures portrayed in the media right now are not exactly purveyors of great messages. And kids follow/imitate and idiolise them. Where are the Michael Jordans of today's role models?

8. More police on the streets, everywhere - it's harder to deals on the corners when there's a cop standing there. Fine it's not that difficult to go somewhere else, but it's an easy way to make things harder.

9. Hold parents accountable - If the police prove that your under 18 year old is dealing out of your house, you go to jail.

10. Have random drug tests at work - I know for a fact that there is no small number of people using recreation drugs all the time, implement unannounced, random tests as a 'right' for employers and hopefully that would provide incentive enough to skip out when they get passed around. Especially given how hard it is to get a job at hte moment.

Good points...

1- Not too sure if that is the answer myself. First of all that would causae over crowding of an already over crowded prison system. However, if these appear to be repeat offenders then yes an example needs to be set.

2- Agreed. But I think the lack of police resources might be a hindrance to this effort as there are numerous drug spots around the island to monitor. So maybe extra funds from the Givt being allocated to the Police budget is a must in order to have any sort of effect on this problem.

3 - Agreed. More youth centers per parish so the kids have less of a chance of getting caught up in the streets. I also think an afterhours technical school might be of great assistance. Kids then can go to a place not just to play but also to learn invaluable schools for the future.

4 - They do seem a little more preoccupied searching for unclaimed merchandise then the actual drugs that destroy our community. Just the other day a co worker of mine was reprimanded because there was a brand new tube of toothpaste in his tolietry bag that wasn't on his declaration form!!! Stupid...

5 - They do in a sese through the Crime Stoppers number. But you would be hard to find any Bermudian willing to prick on another. Hence why so many murder cases remained unsolved.

6 & 7- Good idea but good luck. These speeches only last maybe an hour. Then these kids go back into the environment where drugs are prevalent for the rest of their lives. Temptation is a bitch. The role models should be the parents to begin with, and as I said before some parents don't even know where their adolescent children are at 5am!!

8 - $$$$$$$$$$$$$

9 - Yes yes yes!!!

10 - Hard to implement, especially since the Government won't set the standard and do it themselves.

Lead by Example

If anyone should know the importance of this, it's Colonel Burch. An important part of commanding troops in the regiment is that you do not ask your troops to do anything, that you yourself are not willing to do. This message holds true whether you're a Corporal, Sergeant, Lieutenant , and so and so all the way up to Colonel.

If you're a leader, you lead by example. How else would you inspire others to follow you?

My Idea - Legalise it ALL!

Legalise them All. If the crackhead on the corner wants to kill himself let him. If the fool on the trust fund wants to do coke for his life let him. If the pothead wants to kill all his braincells LET HIM! These are personal choices as far as I'm concerned.

I for one am sick and tied of seeing criminals on the corner making more money than 95% of the hard and honest working people in Bermuda. What i think is a bigger joke is the fact that we really think that we can "encourage" people from selling drugs on the street into taking an "honest" job. This is ridiculous! if you make more in a day that many make in a month, why would you do that. Its a simple case of behavioural economics. And there will be more and more drug dealers as long as the money is good. And they will get more and more violent fighting over their "turf".

All the money spent on interdiction and enforcement, put it into education and build a full scale rehab center. There is nothing that is going to stop a person who wants drugs getting them; and there will always be someone to take the risk to get it to sell it. Whether its legal or illegal the people who want them will still get them and use them.

Why the whole world continues to fight this war that only enriches criminals is beyond me. It cannot be won, it will not be won and the sooner everyone realises it the better.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3932&print=1

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