Vexed, Outed?
How did the hateful pro-UBP blogger Vexed Bermoothes get an advance copy of a Profiles of Bermuda poll before it was released to the public? The only way he would have early access to it is if he was the client that sponsored the poll. If the UBP commissioned the poll, it's almost certainly a UBP insider, and, that insider lied to the public and posed as an independent blogger. If the Royal Gazette commissioned the poll, then, given other clues the writer's given away, it's quite likely that the author is someone very high up at or very well connected to Bermuda's pro-UBP daily. That would be a scandal indeed. A member of Bermuda's so called independent daily masquerading as an 'independent' blogger all the while creating a UBP echo chamber that pushed a clear political agenda? I wonder what the international news ethicists would say about that?
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It is true that it is
It is true that it is curious how he got the poll results, but that really is a tad insignificant if the poll results are correct.
For one thing, it kind of undermines the spin on race and partisanship when about 60% of Blacks and PLP supporters disapprove of the action.
really?
Clearly, I agree that the poll results are important. But, I'd wait to render a judgment until I know 1) the specifics of the questions and 2) when the poll was conducted. If it was conducted before the so called process argument occurred, that would be quite telling. Moreover, if it occurred before Dr. Brown and Minister Burch had the opportunity to make their case, that would also be telling. I think it is responsible that we wait to see the entire poll once it's released to the general public.
Now, I totally disagree with you that how he got the poll was results was insignificant. If there is a media conspiracy in this country, I think that the Bermudian public have a right to know. If supposedly 'impartial' news people are lying to the Bermudian people and masquerading themselves as partisan bloggers and using those blogs to plant stories, rumours and innuendo - I think it's a gross violation of the very core of journalistic integrity. Bermudians deserve a fair press, not a press with a hidden political agenda that conspires with partisan bloggers to achieve political aims while masquerading as an 'independent and impartial' news gathering organisation. As I said, I think journalism ethicists would be aghast at such behaviour, if it is true.
Relativity
My point is that to me the poll results are much more significant thant how Vexed got them. Its all relative like. One is important, but not as important to me as what the data indicates.
He originally had a more detailed write up which, for some reason, is no longer available. I agree though that it would be important to read the full question, but I got the impression that the question was something like 'Do you approve of the decision that was made?' With follow up questions depending on the answer to that as, 'And why do you think that?'.
I would note that the argument could also be turned back at you for hiding as behind a false name, and for all we know you might be someone also masquerading. I mean, beyoond the obvious that you are a PLPer I mean. Without knowing your identity one could suggest various motives to your positions and so forth, y'know what I'm saying? You could be Dr. Brown himself! LOL!
But yeah, I can kind of hear what you are saying, but still, what do you think about the poll results themselves? [Based on what we do know]
It's Not About the Pseudonym..
It's about the MEDIA CONSPIRACY. I have no problem with Vexed using a pseudonym, nor do I have a problem with Mysty using one or Uncle Elvis or beachryan. I have a problem with a possible media conspiracy.
Thanks for the further intrigue though. He really had a more detailed write up? I wonder why he took it down? Very interesting...
As for the questions and the poll, I don't think speculation on the questions is helpful. I'm sure we're less than 24 hours away from finding out, so, I'll refrain from any speculation or judgment until it's published.
for the record...
I don't use a pseudonym. "Uncle Elvis" is more of a nickname. My identity is not a secret.
Unlike yours.
It's Not About the Pseudonym..
I clearly support pseudonyms as a means of speaking out in a society as small as ours. Certainly, the Royal Gazette does as well. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. The issue is whether or not there is a media conspiracy.
Well here you go Mr.
Well here you go Mr. Conspiracy. This is why Vexed had taken down his post.
"UPDATE: The PLP bloggers are trying it on for size that I might be a media or opposition insider. Nice try. I heard it on the radio like everyone else, and the email is winging it around far and wide on this island. You think people aren’t talking about this?".
Funny that you are always claiming all PLP criticisms to be form of wild conspiracy theories. Seems like we are more alike then you would like to believe or accept. Peace be unto you my Bermudian brother...
Radio
Got a copy of the email you can post? Who was the email being sent to? I didn't hear it on the radio. When was it broadcast? Who was it released to? Who commissioned the poll?
What email? it's on Vexed's
What email? it's on Vexed's site. So don't start you conspiracy about me being part of some media outlet, because I won't be as tolerant as some people that make you make accustations against. Here is the linked to Vexed:
http://www.vexedbermoothes.com/poll-says-uhoh-plp/
I suggest you turnit off the propoaganda station and listen to a station which broadcasts both views. Not the stattion that censures individuals which shuts down any opposition voices. My favorite is when Col. Burch was on Hott 107.5 a few years back taking calls about independence and one lady called in against it. So he duly queried if she was white and when she confirmed that this was the case he cut the call off like it and she was some form of disease. Or we can talk about how it was stated on the same propaganda machine that any blacks which do not support the PLP are "House Ni**ggers."
In other words try a station/talkshow that allows both sides to be debated. Not just your extremist beliefs.
My bad about the reference
My bad about the reference to the email part. I haven't received it as of yet. But as soon as I do (assuming I do) I will be the first to pass it on to yourself so that you can begin your race baiting and hate mongering all over again. What a Bermudaful day my Bermudian brother...
Is hateful the new catchphrase?
You seem to be using it a lot.
I'm just curious. When you use it, do you actually mean "Filled with hate", or just "Not a blindly loyal supporter of the PLP and Dr. Brown in particular."?
Hate is Hate
Hate is an accurate description of the political lynch mob that gathered the other day. No one is requiring blind loyal support. As you know, I've repeatedly criticised the Premier on matters. And, I will continue to do so, especially once Vexed is completely out of the closet.
Again, no.
It is NOT an accurate description.
No matter how many times you say it, repetition does not make it truth. There was no hate. You've shown no evidence of this hate. You have only expressed your own opinion, which is obviously biased by your OWN hate and, of course, political gameplaying. You are defending the indefensible with the indefensible and I, for one, find it disgusting, racist and unacceptable.
Your Assertions
It is an accurate description.
No matter how many times you say it, repetition does not make it truth. There was hate. I've shown plenty of evidence of this hate. From the angry chants to the cursing to the calls for Dr. Brown's political scalp to the dictator slurs to the angry chants, I've provided plenty of evidence. You yourself have acknowledged that the crowd was angry.
On the contrary, you have only expressed your own opinion, which is obviously biased by your OWN hate and, of course, political gameplaying. You are defending the indefensible with the indefensible and I, for one, find it disgusting, racist and unacceptable.
anger doesn't equal hate.
Repeating my words back at me is just pathetic.
You have shown NO evidence of hate. None. You've just repeated your silly new catchphrases, hoping that someone will pick up on them.
Anger doesn't equal hate. The last time you tried this tack, you ran away from it, remember?
Subjectivity
Clearly, judgments about the tone of the protest are subjective. I think we can agree on that, right?
hahahaha, What have you ever
hahahaha,
What have you ever disagreed on the Premier with? Talking to the media too much? So you would advocate that the leader of a country to gag certain media outlets because they don't always see eye to eye? What a true believer in democracy you are.
You and your hateful band of merry men who broad brush white bermudians due to your inner hatred are no better then the ignorant whites who did and still do to this day do the same to blacks. You are no different and in no way morally superior to any of those bigots so don't try and take the high road. Get a life and a some tolerance while you are it. You are a blind supporter that can't see past the PLP green and will refuse to do so until the day you die. You do not care about BDA only the PLP.
So this is about outing a political blogger
And you hide behind Rocksolid?
Anyone else see that as a little strange?
Et Tu, Ry?
And you hide behind beachryan?
Anyone else see that as a little strange?
If true, this would be a major media conspiracy, would it not?
How 'bout if I call you on it?
I mean, it IS kind of out of line to be trying to out someone while hiding behind a pseudonym, throwing potshots and making personal attacks.
Its' Not About the Pseudonym
... it's about the MEDIA CONSPIRACY, 'Uncle Elvis' - I assume your name is Elvis?
Burden of Proof
Just saying that the burden of proof, as I have heard from someon, is on the accuser. (LOL) While you have some circumstantial evidence for your argument, it still needs fleshed out. And there are alternate possibilities for how the blogger may have gotten the information. But surely you understand that in exchange of your accusation of a media conspiracy, others may say there is a PLP spin conspiracy, of which you are a part. Personally, I don't care too much either way about who's saying what (although I agree it is a factor) but more on what is being said. But thats just me.
Just Asking Questions!
I readily acknowledge that burden. I don't have enough evidence to convict. So, I'm asking questions.
Don't worry mate!
Don't worry buddy, I was just pointing it out! LOL
Thanks.
I just wish that everyone asked more questions and wasn't so quick to convict.
Two points
1. Why do you call me Ry? That's a fairly affectionate form of Ryan to be used considering we've not met.
2. I'm not calling for a blogger to be outed, hence there isn't any hypocrisy hiding behind a nickname. But if you want to know who I am, I'm not really bothered.
Apologies
1) I'll stop calling you Ry. My apologies.
2) I'm not either. I just want to know if there is a media conspiracy or not.
Poll Results
For the non-Hott radio listening public (i.e. those who prefer an unfiltered version of the goings on in Bermuda free from the distorted lens of management's political persuasions) these exact poll results were broadcast on the morning news (either at 7:00am on 89.1 and/or 7:15am on 106.1) earlier today.
If Vexed can be accused of anything it would be that he too accurately repeated the words used in the actual broadcast: "Some voters wanted to make it clear, however, that they were not against the Uighurs staying in Bermuda, but against the secretive and unconstitutional process by which they arrived here."
The real media conspiracy is the use of Hott 107.5 as a biased mouthpiece of the PLP. It's quite telling that the Premier, Col. Burch, Mrs. Furbert, Thaao, etc. are always available to give their opinion but as of yet I don't think any of the anti-Brown protest organisers have been invited to for an opportunity to give similar commentary (certainly not to the degree PLP insiders have been permitted).
When Thaao dedicates hour upon hour 'discussing' the complexion of the protesters, thereby avoiding the elephant in the room (i.e. the actual issues being protested against) that, my friend, is a media conspiracy with a dash of hypocrisy.
Funny.
If you are so committed to an unfiltered version of the goings on in Bermuda free from the distorted lens of management's political persuasions, I trust that you view the Royal Gazette with a similar cynicism. I'm glad to have your support on that issue.
Last time I checked, Thaao doesn't cloak his biases. After all, he is a PLP Senator and an open supporter. I have no problem with biased media in a free society. What I do have a problem with is biased media that masquerades itself as unbiased media. That's why I have such a problem with The Royal Gazette.
It's telling that Vexed has pulled some of the detailed content from his website. Man's a quick scribe, isn't he? He wasn't just getting ready in the morning and listening to the radio, nor was he on his way in to work. He must have been sitting by his radio, laptop or pen and paper in hand quick to jot down all those details so he could report them to his readers. Or, do you think he found out another way?
Meh - can't think of a good title...LOL
Well, I've been back on his site, and he has a more detailed post on it from my original comment. I don't think its the same as it was compared to the original report I read which broke it down by age groups, gender, race and all that. Again, I am more interested in the data itself. But if its true that it was reported on the radios this morning, its possible that he emailed or otherwise contacted the people behind the poll and got the data from them? Or something along those lines. Either way, maybe someone back home (rocksolid?) could try and contact the people and see if we can get the data up here to analyse?